Debate #3 (OR Liveblogging the agony)

Once again, this feels like a draw to me. I don’t think either candidate did anything of note. I really don’t know how those “undecideds” would react. I think the status quo continues.

Of course, this probably means Obama won.


And it’s over. Phew.

8:27 – Interestingly, candidates will be allocated time for closing arguments…  I guess that’s because it’s the last debate.

8:21 – McCain also says that you can’t throw money at the problem…  and then says you need to reward good teachers. If not money, what exactly are they getting?

8:19 – Free market McCain talks about charter schools and the competition they provide. I’m still not sure how I feel about that, but it seems like we’re giving up on other schools, and “failed schools” don’t ever seem to close, which means someone will always be attending the “failed schools” and that doesn’t seem good.

8:16 – Obama talks about investing in education, and its value for our future. I can only imagine that McCain will complain about Obama wanting to spend money.

8:14 – Once again, Obama discusses bringing opposing sides together.

8:12 – Obama has been doing a good job of saying that McCain is lying without actually saying he’s lying.

8:08 – I’m glad we’re spending a little time talking about the Supreme Court…  McCain says a bunch of reasonable stuff…  followed by saying that he’d look for a strict constitutionalist.

8:07 – Does it feel like McCain’s talking like he’s running a campaign better suited to 1988?

8:05 – McCain really doesn’t spend any time to understand his opponent’s plan in order to refute it.

8:00 – McCain brings up the mythical fine on small business owners, which Obama debunked at the last debate.

7:58 – Obama clearly lays down his health care plan. It’s comprehensive, understandable, and complete. McCain tosses a bunch of junk out, as though it’s a plan.

7:55 – McCain has no doubt that Obama opposes free trade and will raise taxes. I guess that confirms that McCain hasn’t really been listening to Obama during these debates.

7:54 – I swear I can see steam coming out of McCain’s ears…

7:52 – Condescension alert! McCain thinks Obama should travel to Columbia, so he can understand the workers there…   calls the free trade agreement a no-brainer. I don’t suppose he means that supports have no brains…

7:50 – McCain supports retraining our workers through our community colleges…   I wonder how he plans to fund that.

7:49 – Additionally, I’m working really hard to overlook the constant references to “clean coal” and “offshore drilling” …

7:47 – Does anyone else feel like McCain’s answers about energy are just a list of terms that he doesn’t seem to understand.

7:45 – McCain continues to define everything as right and wrong…  Obama’s conversation has been, all evening, about synthesizing multiple points of view.

7:43 – I think McCain needs a new irony detector…  he says Palin’s “breath of fresh air” will sweep out the old boy network…  am I the only one who hears that and thinks it odd coming from, literally, an old boy?

7:42 – McCain claims that Palin is a role model to women…  women like her pregnant daughter?

7:41 – While Obama takes a question about VPs, I want to take a minute to express my irritation at how rudely McCain has been interrupting Obama all night.

7:39 – McCain pivots all the way back to not raising taxes for anyone. I really wonder about this strategy…  Obama says he won’t raise taxes for 95% of people. Is McCain pandering to that remaining 5%? Doesn’t it seem like Obama’s willing to cede their votes? Who is McCain winning here?

7:37 – Obama takes the opportunity to, once again, describe his history with Ayers. While sounding more rational that McCain’s explanations, it’s probably only believable if you trust Obama.

7:36 – McCain brings up ACORN…  says something about “greatest fraud” …  you’re kidding, right?

7:32 – Feels like McCain is trying the attack of a thousands mosquitoes…  lots of little crap from every direction. And, when defending his positions, McCain makes some equally preposterous claims which may or may not be true. I guess if you support and trust McCain, you’ll believe him. If you don’t, you probably won’t.

7:29 – Obama tries to pivot back to the issues. I think he was moderately successful, but when you have to cede the microphone to McCain, who obviously doesn’t want to talk about those same issues, it’s really difficult to change the topic.

7:28 – In just about every answer, McCain seems to just toss a whole bunch of unsubstantiated claims out there in the hope that something will stick.

7:24 – McCain tries to pin the tenor of the campaign on Obama’s unwillingness to do joint town halls.

7:22 – McCain tried to forcefully proclaim that he is not President Bush. Obama takes a moment to say that may be true, but his policies look very similar.

7:20 – McCain complains about the size of the deficit…  but he doesn’t seem to be aware that the war he’s supported so strongly have contributed to.

7:18 – McCain is all over the map…  house values, spending freeze, ending ethanol subsidies, off shore drilling, nuclear power, earmarks, line item veto…  I’m not sure how he got from point A to point B.

7:17 – I really don’t understand McCain’s obsession with propping up home values…  isn’t that kinda like reinflating the bubble?

7:15 – Obama turns the non-sensical “we can’t afford anything now” question into the value of investment by talking about *gasp* return on investment (even if he doesn’t use that term).

7:14 – McCain doesn’t want to spread the wealth around. Did you hear that Mr. Joe Sixpack? McCain doesn’t want you to have a little more wealth.

7:10 – I’m really intrigued that we’re talking about Joe the plummer…  I have no idea what circumstances Joe the Plummer is in, and what his company’s prospects are.  If we don’t understand the premise of the dialog, the argument makes no sense.

7:08 – McCain looks into the camera and promises Joe (Sixpack?) to provide health care to all his employees. Still not sure how he’ll manage to pull that off with his plan.

7:07 – McCain is actually looking at Obama, but looks like he’s holding his breath.

7:05 – Obama gives a little underhand dig at McCain’s “fundamentals are strong” statement.

7:04 – McCain seems to be a little too focused on anger. Are you angry about that?

7:02 – McCain actually spoke to Obama…  what does this mean?

Just under 5 minutes until this here thing starts…  We’ll see how painful an experience this is. Fortunately, through this blog-thing, I can share my agony.


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